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7/12/2010
Is there no end to nanny insanity?
Last week, San Francisco hit the jackpot. On Tuesday, an SF Chronicle article featured news of Mayor Gavin Newsome’s April outlawing of Coca Cola in deference to soy milk. I kid you not.
Newsom's directive, issued in April but whose practical impacts are starting to be felt now, bars calorically sweetened beverages from vending machines on city property.
That includes non-diet sodas, sports drinks and artificially sweetened water. Juice must be 100 percent fruit or vegetable juice with no added sweeteners. Diet sodas can be no more than 25 percent of the items offered, the directive says.
There should be "ample choices" of water, "soy milk, rice milk and other similar dairy or non dairy milk," says the directive, which also covers fat and sugar content in vending machine snacks.
Then Thursday’s San Francisco Chronicle talked about banning the sale of all pets – except fish. Really. I’m not making this up.
"People buy small animals all the time as an impulse buy, don't know what they're getting into, and the animals end up at the shelter and often are euthanized," said commission Chairwoman Sally Stephens. "That's what we'd like to stop."
Closer to home, MadTown won’t sell alcohol to three dozen or so chronic alcoholics.
With support from distributors, police and social services, Madison is banning the retail sale of booze to chronic alcoholics who make trouble and use an inordinate amount of police and social services.
… To get on the list, a person would have to be either arrested and convicted of a crime while drunk or taken to treatment at least six times in the previous 180 days.
The Police Department would produce the list, notify those on it, review it annually, and remove those who have not had relevant convictions or admissions for a year.
What’s the world coming to when you can’t buy hamsters, Coca- cola or booze?
Jo Egelhoff, FoxPolitics.net
COMMENTS
Funny how people think they are doing god by restricting rights of others. The not-so-funny part is every sugar substitute that i have heard of that has been created to replace sugar, have side-effects. From mild headaches, to migraines,
Enlarged liver and kidneys. Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus, Increased cecal weight, Reduced growth rate, Decreased red blood cell count, Hyperplasia of the pelvis, Extension of the pregnancy period, Aborted pregnancy, Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights, Diarrhea.
And that's Splenda! the safe alternative.
Bottom line,
Don't replace what God created with chemicals, and don't over eat or drink.
It should be about individual responsibility NOT government telling me, what's right for me.
There is nothing in our current government, local or federal, that makes me think they can make my decisions for me better than i can.
joe (Mon Jul 12 08:35:40 2010)
I can hardly believe you.
You think that the chronic alcoholics should be allowed to continue? No effort should be undertaken to prevent them from getting drunk? Do you want to be responsible for the damage they cause or lives they destroy? I suggest you step right up and volunteer to take on caring for an alcoholic. That way they can continue drinking without causing any problems for anyone but you and other volunteers.
Dean Weichmann (Mon Jul 12 08:38:49 2010)
Compassion, help. Much help. Yes. Is it the city government's job? More to the point, is it the city's job to regulate the distributor? The report indicates distributors are in support of the effort so I'm assuming this gives the store operators a tool to say no - ? It may work Dean. Too many causes of homelessness and alcoholism though, to be passing an ordinance that will contain specific persons' names.
How about soy and rice milk? Which would you prefer?
Jo (Mon Jul 12 08:48:48 2010)
Agreed, San Francisco is passing ridiculous laws. Anytime government tries to pass nutrition laws, they have unintended consequences. There are lots of people who would tell you that diet soda is worse than regular soda. You can argue with that, but it is at least debatable, and people should be able to choose what they drink.
However, to be fair to Madison, I don't think we can equate their latest effort with Frisco's. Anyone who is arrested 6 times in 6 months while drunk deserves to lose some rights for a while.
Ben (Mon Jul 12 08:49:37 2010)
Back in 1999 I bicycled from De Pere, WI to Ojai, CA. San Francisco was one of the places I didn't buzz right through. The 48 hours or so that I spent there were one of the most interesting in the 3 month trip. I don't say most enjoyable, just interesting.
Sane persons do not reside there on a long term basis. Which says much about voters, and about those in local government.
Andrew Ellis (Mon Jul 12 08:52:20 2010)
On Madison's deal with selling alcohol: I suppose they could take a lesson from Frisco and provide and alternative to alcohol (a depressant) - post guidelines for the general public on how to safely prepare marijuana brownies.
How is it possible for a person to be arrested and convicted of a crime six times in six months? What on earth are their sentences? 24 hours? So we're execrising leniency on the criminals and placing the responsibility on the distributors of a legal product?
Sounds to me like another appeal to our raw emotions, and the end being made to justify the means.
Why is that so familiar?
Andrew Ellis (Mon Jul 12 09:11:47 2010)
Jo, it appears that you are trying to hype up the significance of this.
The ordinance "bars calorically sweetened beverages from vending machines on city property." So maybe chocolate milk would be out. The school in my district now does not allow carbonated beverages in vending machines, no big deal.
Would you prefer a different method of affecting human behavior?
Perhaps a pigou tax on sugar?
Dean Weichmann (Mon Jul 12 13:39:47 2010)
As a drunk, a recovering one but still a drunk, I can say from experience that there is no amount of effort from government that is going to prevent them from getting their booze as long as they want it. A drunk is the most imaginative, resourceful and hardest working person..as long as he/she is working to obtain alcohol.
And Jo...drunken disorderly conduct is only a misdemeanor offense. 6 times in 6 months...no problem for some.
You guys should see the folks lining up at the liquor stores at about 7:50 along E. Washington in Madtown!!
Dale McNamee (Mon Jul 12 17:59:08 2010)
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